The Auckland War Memorial Museum is preparing a special week of activities leading up to this year’s Anzac Day commemorations on Friday. The centrepiece of commemorations is the outdoor projection of Heroes of Gallipoli, the rare film recently restored by Peter Jackson that contains the only known footage of the campaign. It will be projected onto the museum’s front entrance for the three evenings leading up to the Anzac Day commemorations (April 22, 23, and 24). The 20-minute film will play on continuous loop from 7.00pm to 10.00pm. A three-minute segment of this rare film can also be viewed on nzherald.co.nz
On 25 April each year Australians and New Zealanders pause to mark ANZAC Day, a tribute to the sacrifices made at Gallipoli in WW1
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Or to put it more simply for doolie simpletons; I never asked you about your family history.
I mentioned mine to let you know how he and 69 other survivors of the Wellington regiment owe their lives to English soldiers whom you maintain this disgusting fiction never did any fighting at Gallipoli.
See this is why you doolies are such losers and why nobody takes you seriously; You implied that I was a liar first. A consistent standard is beyond your comprehension isn’t it?
And no I am not interested in your fake family history, that’s not what this is about.
This is about the disgusting and racist things you say about the English. They suffered at leat as much as anyone else.
And for good reasons; it’s you Doolies who nobody trusts, especially around young boys…
No. You called me out. Called me a liar. Now I can prove what I said, and believe me I can, you are now “not interested”. That indicates to me the English style. It is now widely exposed as the English sham, and no one trusts the English.
“My father’s cousin was an American hero who was awarded the DSO” was what you said. If he was a hero to the Americans why would he get a non-American award.
Don’t even bother answering that, because I’m frankly not interested. It’s just typical of the insecure little point-scoring that you doolies do, not Anglos like me.
I’m more interested in giving credit to where it’s due, like acknowledging that English people actually fought instead of fabricating stories about them making others fight.
Why are you English ALWAYS trying to score stupid points. Where did I EVER say the DSO was an American award? I say again, my father’s cousin was awarded the DSO.
My mother’s best friend got the Silver Star during the war. That IS an American award, and he was a New Zealander. You are displaying your ignorance, not me.
Well for starters the DSO does not exist in the US military.
You don’t get it do you? I’m not interested in your fake family history and they’re not relevant nor intending to get in some weeing contest over family war history.
I mentioned the fact my great grandfather was relieved by English soldiers (whom incidentally the Turks later almost wiped-out to a man) to demonstrate what a load of rubbish these claims that the English didn’t fight are.
What a childish little creature you clearly are.
Really. You are a joker. I wouldn’t even mention my Great- grandfather. My father was badly wounded in WW2, my uncle killed, another with shell shock, another a conschie who was an ambo and another fought from Greece to Trieste – the whole bit. My father’s cousin was an American hero who was awarded the DSO.
No, not my grandfather. I said my Great-Grandfather. You’ve forgotten how to read or something? And my late father (who was his grandson) would be 65 if he was still alive today.
Your grandfather? Gimme a break. That would make you around 90 years old.
Do you know what?
My great Grandfather fought for the Wellington regiment at a place called Chanak Bair. Do you know who he owed his life to?
ENGLISH Soldiers, from Bristol. They came and relieved them after they’d won a position and defended it from the Turks. And it’s not surprising as the English made up the majority of the Entente forces in the campaign.
You may think you’re being funny or it may make you feel better about being an inbred; but really you’re just a wanka mate.
Ahahahaha you have not even close to a clue.
There’s a bit more to the world that your kiddy-fiddler clique and old-school doolie.
Or you’ve heard something that resembles historical fact as opposed to angry irrational Doolie myths.
Ahahahahaha you are such a joke!
News flash! Turkey declared war on the entente on its own initiative. The Brits would’ve wanted nothing more than for Turkey to stay out of the war.
If this hilarious claim that the British wanted to extend their empire was true; then why didn’t they extend this “English empire” when they defeated them? Aw yeh DUH. I swear You Doolies rival Maoris and Boongas for stupidity.
You’re hilarious! Typical ignorant doolie; you seriously need to lose the inferiority complex and pick-up a history book.
The Turks declared war on the entente, so that made an invasion valid. Attaturk never had to forgive anyone for anything.
NZ was enthusiastic in its support of Britain, and were at war by default anyway. Most NZ’ers at the time were virtually English anyway. Maybe not your inbred ginger family but you’re not normal are you?
You might be in Istanbul but the Ottomans aren’t. Face it; The British defeated the Ottoman empire.
Hahaha a large number of the ANZACS were actually “English” anyway. They were born in England or had English parents. The English are as much “heroes” as anyone else.
Now run along and find yourself a choirboy to molest…
How can it be anti British? The Anzacs were British too. It is anti-English, not anti-British.
For much of the history of the Ottoman Empire; it didn’t even border Russia.
Russia didn’t come to blows with the Ottomans until they took over the Crimea. And then they went to war in the Balkans, which the Austro-Hungarians made sure the outcome-of weakened the Ottomans.
Has always been the Russians.
In fact before the war the Austro-Hungarian empire were the biggest enemy of the Ottomans of all.
The Russo-Turkish wars and Crimean wars are not relevant. Prior to the war Bulgaria was as much a hostile state towards the Ottomans that Russia was and they still joined the central powers.
The Ottomans could’ve sat the war out, their reason for joining was due to pro-German nationalist usurper Enver Pasha and his young Turks.
And none of this is relevant to the British defeating and destroying the Ottoman empire.
Ever heard of the Russo-Turkish wars? People think Greece was Turkey’s arch enemy, but it has always been Russia. The Russian Empire has always been very hostile towards it’s non-Slavic neighbouring countries. The Ottomans also fought with the British and French against Russia not long before the war. Both the fact that Russia was with the allies and the fact that the Ottoman Empire was very weak in it’s last years are two of the few reasons they didn’t join/weren’t allowed to join the allies.
That’s ridiculous to call the Ottoman empire “stolen”. No more stolen than any colonisation the British did in the Antipodes or North America!
The Turks migrated to Anatolia and originally settled lands in the interior sparsely populated and barely controlled by either the Byzantines nor the Persians. Their ascendency was as much due to Byzantine decline that any expansion or aggression from them, and the Greeks have themselves to blame for that with their internal squabbling.
Another insulting and totally inaccurate anti-British post from you. What a wanka…
The British were the Allies, and by that stage of the war had taken the reins from the French.
And the Russians were not in any state to be a threat to the Ottomans.
The British defeated the Ottomans, it was their campaigns in Mesopotamia that out the Ottoman army in a state of disarray.
The British Empire didn’t defeat the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans surrendered to the allies because Germany lost the war and couldn’t protect them from the Russians anymore.
By your logic, Europe should be abandoned. Since everyone migrated from Nigeria.
Why would the Brits have a problem with a New Zealander saving their bacon? Do you think they’re all petty and have such an inferiority complex?
They don’t have a problem with being under American command during the Gulf wars or the latter part of the Second world war.
no words can justify the this imperialist invasion…
it was a legend..
and the Turks wrote!..
Whoever posted this …
“The Anzac troops were also British. This is a game you English play. The heroes of Gallipoli were Australians, New Zealanders and of course the Turks. The only English part in the invasion was commanding the poor Anzacs to go “press on”. They were murderous heartless staff officers. ”
… has no understanding of history, is wrong in every point and is trotting out received myths. It’s self-serving nonsense and ultimately insulting to the ANZACs who fought there.
Anzacs are remembered more because the events between Anzacs and Turks. The food/cigar excahnge between them, not firing at each other while gathering the gifts in no-man’s land, Turkish officer getting out of trench and shouting ”Dur! Dur!” meaning Stop! Stop! to Anzacs after their desoerate attacks that led nowhere.
the facts are the australian had 8,709 dead and 19,000 wounded,the kiws had 2,721 dead and 4752 wounded ,thefrench had10,000 dead and 17,000 wounded ,the british had 43,000 dead and 96,937 wounded .india lost 2358,and 3421 wounded ,newfoundland lost 49 with 93 wounded
true they were the british and empire troops ,but out of 86,600 allied dead half were britsh,from the british isles ,so your wrong tosay it was an anzac operation
The Anzac troops were also British. This is a game you English play. The heroes of Gallipoli were Australians, New Zealanders and of course the Turks. The only English part in the invasion was commanding the poor Anzacs to go “press on”. They were murderous heartless staff officers.
more british troops were killed at gallipolli than anzacs,if constantipole was greek , how come the turks have it now , it was laid seige to in 1400 and something, it was a christian city for over a 1000 years before the turks captured it , ,turkey in ww1 sided with the germans ,it was war ,the invasion was to knock turkey out of the war ,not to occupy turkey long term, you fail to reconise the genocide commited on the armenians ,and after ww1 on the greeks to
As the film mentions, Australians were the people who were sacrificed in this battle. We New Zealanders helped the Anzac heroes. The battle was not legimate. It was only undertaken due to one man’s crazed view of unlimited power. By the way, the Byzantine Empire was Greek. The city was called Byzantion, a Greek name. The Turks didn’t “invade” Byzantion. It is in Turkish territory.
turks were from asia minor , constantinople was the capital of the eastern roman empire it was christian ,the byzantine empire , the turks laid seige to it ,invaded lands that never belonged to them ,and captured constantinople , hence stolen ,7-00 or so years ago dont you know your history , the kaiser wanted an empire like thte british ,but ended up being beat , just like the turks , gallipolli was just a tactical battle that didnt work out , it was legitimate ,and not an atrocity as you say
what do you mean right or wrong , ww1 was started by the asassination of arch duke ferdinand , by a serb , austria hungary invaded serbia, russia declared war on austria hungary , ,germany declared war on russia, france declared war on germany , germany invaded belguim and we got involved , turkey sided with germany , and shelled crimean ports , turkey were the enemy and thats why we were at war
O dear. We agree to disagree on that I think. You seem to want to defend your country right or wrong. As for Constantinople, it was not “stolen”. I have heard everything now.
that part of turkey was stolen anyway ,constantiople was a christian city ,so if anyone extended their empire it was turkey ,again it was no atrocity ,it was a tactical invasion to draw the germans away from the russian front ,it failed thats all , turks did shoot some british prisoners ,that was a crime to, turkey wasnt innocent they were fully allied to germany ,all britain did was to try and preserve belgians neutrality ,it was the kaiser who wanted spread his empire
a patriot my backside, most new zealanders are of british decent ,either english, welshor scots ,youve still got the union flag on yours , because your countrymen havent voted to get rid of it , how can invading gallipoli be a crime ,when turkey was on germanys side , they occupied the middle east,the only war crimes were by the germans ,austrians anf turks , the german occupation of belgium, bombing london, using gas first , austrians invasion of serbia anf turkeys genocide of the armenians
A traitor in England’s eyes, yes. But a patriot for New Zealand nevertheless. The invasion of Turkey was an attrocity. Turkey was an innocent country and was invaded due to Churchill’s mad concept of extending the English Empire.
your views in ww1 would of got you shot ,your off your head , if they hadnt gone to gallipolli they would of ended up on the western front , a far worse theatre of war ,your a traitor
civilian ships , turkey occupied the whole middle east ,russia wanted pressure off the eastern front and asked the british to do something , so we invaded gallipolli ,turkey were in the war , so were hardly victims , siding with mulims scummy turks ,overthe british .must be bloody irish decent ,your saying churchill was worse than hitler ,mussolini ,stalin and mao ,and the japanese ,your off your head , it was churchill who stood up against nazism while all bowed down to them
dont talk utter shite , new zealanders and aussies were all volunteers ,they didnt have to fight and a large majority of them were british who had moved to australia and new zealand anyway , they were only to keen to fight for their mother country and its not england but britain ,
germany were the agressors along with the austrian hungarian empire ,and turkey joined in on their side , tell the belgian civilians whosuffered under german occupation ,germany were bombing london ,and sinking
By the way, the periscope in 0:49 is being used by a New Zealand soldier, not an Australian You can tell by the “lemon squeezer” hat, which was not used by Australians.
Hi Burak. Yes. You are. This was our crime as New Zealanders to invade Turkey. Kemal Ataturk forgave us and I hope you can also. I can only say sorry as a New Zealander and mean it.
We were conned by England as we thought they needed our help, but that is no excuse. We knew they were evil then and they are still evil now. The vile monster Churchill caused this whole attrocity and also started World War 1. He is the most evil person in history for sure.
What an absolute waste of life! My Great Uncle was KIA on Aug. 7 1915 at “Rhododendron Spur” during the August Offensive. It’s hard to imagine what these boys went through…and for what?
I hope he can look down on us now and see the freedom he lost his life for….
Rest in peace brother!
why you say british empire when there were french, greek, russia, italian, armenian also ? ottomans were alone.. where is your honour? still seeking in movies i’m sure
how tragic how noble both friend and foe lets hope nothing ever happens like it again ever amen
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives… you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours… You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well. ( Atatürk 1936)
An idiot where are you guys now. We are still in IStanbul. AN IDOT…..
Defenders shouldn’t take as many casualties as attackers.
If were alive in 1918 you would’ve seen the Union Jack flying from the Dolmabahçe palace when the Ottomans allowed the British to occupy Constantinople.
So why did your habit desert you for the last two years of the war? you know, when you got your arses kicked time and time again?
There was no Axis during the first world war.
I am from NZ and I know it for a fact that the war was won and lost on the western front. Gallipoli was in many ways an attempted propaganda sideshow from the stalemate on the western front in 1915. There’s no disrespect because it’s the truth and in any case that’s where most of the ANZACS went to after Gallipoli was evacuated. Germany was the industrial might of the Central Powers that supplied Austria and Turkey with material.
Why would the Brits have a problem with a New Zealander saving their bacon? Do you think they’re all petty and have such an inferiority complex?
They don’t have a problem with being under American command during the Gulf wars or the latter part of the Second world war.
Oh okay, so by your logic Germany didn’t lose the war because they signed an armistice?
The Ottomans then allowed Constantinople to be occupied. The Ottoman Empire was then demolished into liberated Arab states. Turkey signed the treaty of Sevres which was effectively a capitulation.
That’s where I got the idea that Turkey was defeated by the British Empire. Oh, and the fact Ottoman armies had suffered over a year of continuous defeats to British military forces.
“Allowed access” hahaha…
lol u dont know anything about the army then if you think that about them idiot
So if Turkey was never invaded as you claim, how did Russia occupy Trebizond and Erzurum then?
I mean the Gallipoli campaign was an attempted invasion of Turkey.
For the most part, Turkey was defeated by British Empire forces even if they surrendered to the entire entente.
Hahaha and how do you figure that?
You are aware that the British Empire defeated the Ottoman empire in the first world war right?
lol you really have know idea what you on about do you..guys only one because you had better defensive positions. we lost 34, 216 Anzac that’s including the wounded another 21.000 for the Brits still alot less that the 87.000 you Turks lost and for what reason both side where just normal everyday people who had know idea what they were getting into turning the battle both sides bonded in a way.. till this say they respect each other…but you guys wouldnt have a chance now
good excuse to close the shops
You should be proud of it, very proud. I wonder if any of the people on here arguing about who is better and who handed whose ass to who, ever steps back and wonders why there is such respect nowadays between Turks and Australians and New Zealanders?
Because they realize that on both sides so many young men were lost in this hellish war, that allows you stupid idiots to quibble nowadays about who beat who. Seriously…
Lest We Forget.
Starting at approx 2.43.
The last section of this film is of the 5th Royal Irish Fusiliers in a trench at Suvla Bay.
rats of tobruk, never turn your back to an aussie or kiwi when their together
this was a horrid battle, but the results say that each year there is no hate between the brits and the turks, our soldiers even develope a respect to each other. why would the turks even build a momument in honour of it
What the fuck are you on about? What does that even mean?
I laugh bruise british empire
The only winners in war are the banking families who loan governments money at high interest. Here in Britain we’re still paying off our debt for the civil war let alone all the wars in the last 200 years. Rothschild family have us by the balls they fund both sides every time.
I bet all the people arguing on here only think they know the History of the wars because they know a when they started and ended and who Hitler was. Stop arguing like children, every country and the soldiers who fought were equally as brave and they all deserve respect. Even the Germans, because contrary to popular belief not all Germans wanted to fight for the Nazis. however the Nazi death squads deserve no respect at all.
Tell me, if you beat the British so badly then why did you lose the war and every single inch of the Ottoman Empire? Stick to killing Kurdish civilians, it is about the only thing the Turks can manage on their own …
We never had the intention to colonize Turkey, you idiot. Our colonization priorities were in central Asia and Africa.
Nope, bad planning lost Gallapoli. Saying it was thanks to Turkish strength is as bullshit and saying gravity doesn’t exist. It doesn’t make sense that the richest and most powerful country on earth could be defeated by a weak, bankrupt and barbaric country. If that were true, why were did we annihilate your entire empire with ease?
I am TURK. I am proud of it. We kicked your ass. I have never seen any british empire flag over us. Have some milk and then when you guys are ready, We will beat you again. It is our habit ………..
TURKS…..
That’s right, you are Turk. Before the first world war you were Ottoman. What happened to your great Ottoman Empire? It was destroyed, which is why now you are Ottoman no longer and just a Turk.